K Zildjian cymbals are known for their dark, warm sound that harkens back to the original K cymbals developed by Zildjian in 19th Century. Turkey. We use. All later Avedis Zildjian stamps have dot dot dash dash at the bottom of the Image: Zilco TRADE MARK stamp in WFL Catalog .. This seems to be the case in his original essay, and to have lasted until at least Avedis Zildjian info by year annotated with information and links: Avedis catalog lists Bop Flange Hats and Be-Bop cymbals 18″ to 26″ (Cymbal Book , p) AB change to pin lathing on K Cons; 15, 17, 19 crashes added.

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Zildjian, who at that time, was a competitor of A. The earlier stamp is characterized by a “chunky” or “thick line” appearance in the Ottoman section, and it and has three dashes under it. Telling a 50s from a 70s cqtalogo that simple, although there are some more sophisticated uses of the line construction which allow for more distinctions among the Large Stamps vs 60s Stamps vs 70s.

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I can’t get his permalinks to work. What about the sound I hear you cry.

These weight ranges cayalogo just above the previous weight ranges. In the Large Stamp without the three dots the E is directly under the H. I suspect but can’t be certain that in part it happened because of over generalizing from too few cymbal examples.

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The link will end in HollowInkZ and if you copy this link and then paste it into an email or into a forum post it will be a direct link to that entry. This seems to be the case in his original essay, and to have lasted until at least For examples of hammering on these early cymbals go to the hammering page. The ” stamp” seems to have been identified later on maybe or so?

Cursive A next to the model ink By a cursive A appears to the left of the model ink, and the font for the model and weight designation changes slightly.


But you can still see the hammer marks on both sides if you look closely in most cases. These two are dated in the printing itself. Totally different production eras. Introducing Ink and Mentioning Models Many people seem to think that Avedis Zildjian didn’t put ink on their cymbals until the mid s.

In order to distinguish the no three dots Large from the no dots Late 50s Small Stampsuse the details of which parts are bold versus finer lines. The red and green arrows on this picture point out two features of this stamp.

The green arrows point to two elements of the stamp which are in bold relative to the rest. But I do appreciate contributions from others, particularly because I haven’t got any Zildjian catalogs, price lists, and old drumming magazines with ads.

Zildjian White Paper No. There are some other distinguishing features which an help if you can only see part of the stamp: So provided that bottom line is well struck this is easy to check. But you should be aware that this usage is non standard, as are other things on that site. I’m hoping to refine what “later 60’s” means and whether the shorter and taller stamps might have been used at the same time.

One shows the flat top bell for sure, in the other case the photo doesn’t make it clear. The Large Stamps seem to be very rare on small diameter cymbals, probably because of mechanical problems. For example, one 80s version has CO rather than Co for company.

Zilco Showing Top Hammering Image: But I don’t believe Bill has ever published his 4 sub types with the official names and type specimens the photos and identifying features which would establish them. See the Hammering Page for examples. As in true Zildjian style, the cymbals are made adhering to their traditional formula of 80 per cent copper and 20 percent tin, with the occasional glimmer of silver.

But when you compare the 60s stamps to the late s small stampin the s the Ottoman portion also appears bold. If you go bak to the very first photo in the s section that’s the only flaw present in that particular pressing.


Zilco Showing Bottom Hammering The above Zilco shows the similarity of the hammering style to either the pre Trans zildjixn above or the Trans stamps next entry. Knowing that we are looking at Ottoman also gives us a bit of an insight into what the dots are about which appear over some letters but not in all versions of all die stamps.

Rework of A series Image: Zenjian-Ludwig stamp Alejian for Slingerland s Image: But if all traces of ink have been removed than a cymbal with the s one inch stamp might be mis-identified as a Late 50s Small Stamp.

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There are cymbals which are hammered and lathed in the style in use around the last days of hand hammering for shape, or the early days of developing the Quincy Drop Hammer. If you want your life to be simple, then stay with “First” and “Second”, or better yet just call them “Pre Trans Stamps”. The 20″ added range is zidjian, – 2,g and the 22″ zilduian range is 2, – 2,g. The English portion changes in detail over time, but some changes can be subtle changes of alignment and relative location.

Small Stamp late s two subtypes Image: It says Avedis Zildjian possibly with Co at the end. Another thing to note is that in the English portion there are another three dots The bolding of these elements changes slightly in the s when it is only the Zildjian Coand again in the s when it disappears altogether.

But the “stamp” is not the cymbal. IE laser stamp and model ink One was produced in the same way as the Avedis cymbals of the day. Because of the detail involved which most of you might not want go get into there is a separate page on the Trans Stamp Sub Types where the details are shown. In other words, 70s stamped cymbals lack the vertical alignment and 50s stamped cymbals have the vertical alignment.